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Does anyone know of an easy (and perhaps inexpensive) way to get more
                     
than 4 MB in a MSTE. I'm running a little short on both memory and
                     
processor-power. Unfortunately I can't afford a Falcon yet. :-(
                     
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Daniel Eriksson  (m91der@tdb.uu.se, den@hgs.se)
                     
                     
                     
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In article <1993May9.030615.10120@tdb.uu.se>, m91der@tdb.uu.se
                     
(Daniel Eriksson) writes:
                     
> 
                     
> Does anyone know of an easy (and perhaps inexpensive) way to get more
                     
> than 4 MB in a MSTE. I'm running a little short on both memory and
                     
> processor-power. Unfortunately I can't afford a Falcon yet. :-(
                     
> 
                     
Marpet in the UK (sorry, don't have an address/phone) do a board to
                     
let you add an extra 8meg (ie, up to 12meg) via simms. Its for the ST,
                     
but I guess it might work in a MSTE.
                     
                     
                     
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Kevin O'Donovan                   kebab@cix.compulink.co.uk
                     
 				  mebeb@uxb.liverpool.ac.uk
                     
                     
                     
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Does anyone know the number/address to the company Kevin mentioned
                     
(Marpet)?
                     
                     
                     
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Daniel Eriksson  (m91der@tdb.uu.se, den@hgs.se)
                     
                     
                     
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In article <1993May10.230306.24812@tdb.uu.se>, m91der@tdb.uu.se
                     
(Daniel Eriksson) writes:
                     
>Does anyone know the number/address to the company Kevin mentioned
                     
>(Marpet)?
                     
>
                     
>---
                     
>Daniel Eriksson  (m91der@tdb.uu.se, den@hgs.se)
                     
>
                     
>
                     
                     
                     
Email address for Marpet  Marpet@cix.compulink.co.uk
                     
                     
                     
Ofir   ogal@cix.compulink.co.uk
                     
                     
                     
Experience is something you don't get until just after you need it.
                     
                     
                     
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I've just had a quick chat with Marpet (can't talk too long with the
                     
current phone-rates for out-of-contry calls ;-). Really nice guy! The
                     
price for the unpopulated MSTE-expansion is GBP 99.95, and the card
                     
has a VME-thru-port. It's supposed to start shipping next week.
                     
                     
                     
Someone mentioned to me that memory on the VME-bus is slower than
                     
normal ST-memory. I'd like to know just HOW much slower it is. Does
                     
anyone care to guess, or even better, does anyone KNOW how much
                     
slower it would be compared to normal ST-memory.
                     
                     
                     
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Daniel Eriksson  (m91der@tdb.uu.se, den@hgs.se)
                     
                     
                     
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In article <1993May12.101154.19737@tdb.uu.se>, m91der@tdb.uu.se
                     
(Daniel Eriksson) writes:
                     
> I've just had a quick chat with Marpet (can't talk too long with the
                     
> current phone-rates for out-of-contry calls ;-). Really nice guy! The
                     
> price for the unpopulated MSTE-expansion is GBP 99.95, and the card
                     
> has a VME-thru-port. It's supposed to start shipping next week.
                     
> 
                     
> Someone mentioned to me that memory on the VME-bus is slower than
                     
                     
                     
Mmmm, are you sure? I shouldn't think that it will be slow since the
                     
VME-bus is directly connected the bus.  (JG) 
                     
The only way it could be slower was if it was accessed as ST mem (ie The 
                     
graphics and DMA chips are allowed access to it), but since you NEED tos 2.+
                     
to have this mem, I would have thought it was installed as TT mem, and so 
                     
faster than normal ST mem (NS)  -Please correct us if we're wrong (Naaa..)
                     
                     
                     
NS Nathan Summers
                     
JG Jonathan Gow
                     
                     
                     
UWE Students, England
                     
 
                     
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NJP Summers (njp_summ@kiwi.uwe.ac.uk) wrote:
                     
> [...]
                     
> Mmmm, are you sure? I shouldn't think that it will be slow since the
                     
> VME-bus is directly connected the bus.  (JG) 
                     
> The only way it could be slower was if it was accessed as ST mem (ie The 
                     
> graphics and DMA chips are allowed access to it), but since you NEED tos
                     
> 2.+ to have this mem, I would have thought it was installed as TT mem,
                     
> and so faster than normal ST mem (NS)  -Please correct us if we're wrong
                     
> (Naaa..)
                     
                     
                     
According to Jim Allen of Fast Tech fame, any memory connected over
                     
the VME bus is impossible to cache and therefore slower than normal
                     
ST-mem in a MSTE (which has a small cache). I never got around to
                     
ask if the memory was installed as fastmem, but I guess so.
                     
                     
                     
Fast Technologies takes another approach by making a thing called
                     
Turbo RAM, which fits in the BLiTTER-socket and gives you 4 or 8
                     
megs of extra RAM. The board takes one SIMM-module (Mac-model). Jim
                     
also said that his Tiny Turbo can take full advantage of the speed
                     
of the SIMM on the Turbo RAM board. So if you populate the Turbo
                     
RAM board with a 80ns SIMM it will have the data ready in approx
                     
150ns for the Tiny Turbo (directly from Jim's mouth). The Turbo RAM
                     
board is 199USD unpopulated. Add 120USD for a 4 meg SIMM and 240USD
                     
for a 8 meg SIMM.
                     
                     
                     
Note: I'm not affiliated with neither Marpet nor Fast Technologies.
                     
I'm merely looking for a way to expand my MSTE and I thought my
                     
findings could be of interest to some other netters too. :-)
                     
                     
                     
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Daniel Eriksson  (m91der@tdb.uu.se, den@hgs.se)
                     
                     
                     
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>Does anyone know the number/address to the company Kevin mentioned
                     
>(Marpet)?
                     
Meadowfield farm, Fellbeck, Pateley bridge, HG3 5ET, UK
                     
Tel +44 (0) 423 712600 Fax +44 (0) 423 712601.
                     
                     
                     
In the UK they are a very highly rated firm with good products
                     
and prices and good after sales service (I have personal
                     
experience of this!)
                     
                     
                     
The board is called Xtra-RAM+8 and lets and STe, MSTe and Mega ST
                     
go to 12Mb max. The memory can be used by any package that is TT
                     
memory aware. The bare boards are #110 for STe, #100 for Mega ST
                     
and #150 for MSTe - GBP.
                     
                     
                     
Populated boards are GBP400 in all cases.
                     
                     
                     
Solder free installation and requires TOS2.06. Soon to support <2.06
                     
and possibly STFMs.
                     
                     
                     
 
                     
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